"The Laura Flanders Show" (25 minutes)
Waging love and watching resilient wildlife; we ask two charismatic leaders how they keep their sprits brave. Reverend Dr. Jacqui Lewis is senior minister at New York’s Middle Collegiate Church and a contributor to the 2017 collection Faith and Resistance in the Age of Trump. Adrienne Maree Brown is co-editor of Octavia’s Brood, Science Fiction from Social Justice Movements, and Emergent Strategy: Shaping Change, Changing Worlds in which she urges activists to become as open to change as nature is.